BERAL,
INC.
Andrew G. Racz
Director of Research
300 East 54 Street, Suite 26C
New York, New York 10022
Telephone: (212) 319-6949
Fax: (212) 753-1944
E-mail:
mlikar@aol.com
Golden Valley Mines,
Ltd.
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TSX
Venture |
GZZ:
C. 65¢ |
Yearly
high: C. 82¢ |
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March
31, 2007 |
Shares
outstanding: |
58,000,000 |
Fully
diluted: |
63,700,000 |
Robert
McEwen owns: |
10% |
Cash
position
Stock ownership |
C.
9M
Management owns 15%
R. McEwen owns 10%
Quebec Labour Funds owns 10%
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Market
value: |
$40M
U.S. |
Less
liquid assets |
10M
$30M
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ANDREW RACZ:
Mr. Mullan?
MR. MULLAN: This is an interview
with Mr. Glen Mullan, president and CEO of Golden
Valley Mines Ltd., April 18, 2007. Mr. Mullan, how
do you think Peter Munk would wake up today if he
was predicted that the price of gold was going to
go up let's say threefold.
Q: How do you think he would feel?
How do you think the chairman of Ivanhoe would feel
if you tell him that the price of copper goes up
or Rio Tinto's management were notified that copper
and gold will go up threefold?
A: I'm at a loss for words. I'm not sure how to
respond to your question.
Q: Well, you are president of a company which in
a key position in the uranium industry, and so far
the price of uranium on the open market has gone
up sixfold in three and a half years. That puts
you into a very enviable position.
CIBC World Markets Inc. has raised its price forecasts
for uranium oxide by 40 percent, citing an environmentally
driven renaissance in nuclear power and a gap between
demand and supply for the metal. The firm's chief
economist, Jeffrey Rubin, said yesterday that he
now expects the nuclear fuel, which is currently
fetching $113 U.S. a pound, to hit $140 this year
and $160 in 2008.
The move comes amid developments that could bring
a new transparency to "yellowcake" prices,
which have already risen 15-fold in the past six
years, by allowing speculators as well as industry
participants to play the market through futures
contracts for the first time. Until now, prices
have been set behind the scenes, mostly in contracts
between utilities and uranium suppliers. As well,
it is only in the past couple of years that investors
have been able to bet in these prices directly,
by investing in a handful of funds that have gone
out and purchased actual yellowcake.
On Monday, however, the New York Mercantile Exchange
revealed plans to launch futures contracts for uranium
oxide next month in collaboration with Ux Consulting
Co. LLC of Roswell, GA, the key source of what little
public information there is on prices. The contracts
will be settled in cash, meaning no one will have
to arrange to take delivery of the stuff.
The Nymex-Ux plan came just over two weeks after
British energy broker Tullett Prebon (U.K.) Ltd.
said it has set up a nuclear fuel derivatives desk
to sell a variety of futures contracts B also to
be based on the yellowcake price and settled in
cash B to utilities, mining companies, banks and
investment funds.
Mr. Rubin said there has been a "bellwether
change" in North American attitudes toward
atomic power. He cited environmentalist opposition
that recently forced Texas's largest power utility
to scrap plans for 6,000 megawatts of new coal-fired
generating capacity in favor of building up to five
nuclear power plants.
"It's one thing for California to ban coal-fired
capacity, but it's a whole other ball game when
Texas is canceling 6,000 megawatts of capacity for
environmental reasons," he said when reached
in Toronto.
As well, 21 new nuclear plants are slated to come
into service in China and elsewhere in Asia by 2010,
and twice that many more by 2020, he said in a commentary.
At present, mine production provides just 66 percent
of the approximately 68,000 tons of yellowcake civilian
reactors around the world required annually, while
the balance comes from secondary sources. However,
the report notes that one key secondary source,
a program under which Cold War-era atomic warheads
are converted to fuel purchased by U.S. power plants,
is set to end in 2013, and Russia has already said
it will not renew the pact. Mine production is slated
to expand to 59,000 tons a year by 2010, from 42,000
last year, with 12,000 tons of the increase coming
in the final year.
A: Well, we're an explorer, Mr. Racz, and regardless
what the price of any one commodity is on a given
day, we're an explorer first and foremost. Whether
it's uranium, gold, nickel, copper, platinum, palladium,
zinc, the fundamentals are essentially the same.
It's supply/demand, and our business plan is conceived
deliberately so that regardless of the vagaries
of the metals pricing in the short term, there's
a longer term time line that we apply to our exploration,
financial strategies. So of course we're delighted
to see the current robust pricing of all commodities,
uranium in particular. But the business plan that
was conceived in the late 1990s was conceived at
a time when the metals were at their all-time low
for most of them. Nickel was below $2.00 U.S. a
pound in 2000. Uranium was right off the map in
the year 2000. Similarly, copper, zinc, and most
of the other base metals had much less attractive
pricings, and the mining industry as a consequence
was nearly stagnant. But for us that was a great
business opportunity to design a business plan that
could sustain those various cycles. So of course
we're delighted to see that the mining industry
is breaking upwards.
Q: Can you very briefly describe then your original
business plan.
A: The original business plan offers access to several
commodities. It's not a gold company, it's not a
uranium company, it's not a nickel company. It's
a mining exploration company. And to that extent,
we have leverage to several different commodities,
including uranium, gold, copper, zinc, nickel, but
such that we can respond quickly without changing
our business plan or operations that we can respond
quickly to changing conditions in the market. The
original plan was focused on multiple property opportunities,
multiple commodities, and owning 100 percent of
the assets.
Q: Then you diversified by taking in partners to
provide the capital before the exploration, correct?
A: We only take in partners under certain conditions.
We always try to drill properties while we own 100
percent of them at the earliest opportunity. So
we drill grassroots properties every month while
we own 100 percent. The partnerships that we do
are on certain specific properties that don't meet
those conditions. Any property that's not within
three hours of our head office, well, we operate
through a partnership. If we can't drive to it within
three hours, we want a partner to pay for the work.
So that's a fundamental tenet of our plan.
Q: How much money have you taken in from partnerships?
A: Over $5 million.
Q: And what is your plan for the next twelve to
twenty-four months?
A: On uranium specifically we'll be drilling the
Bear Tooth Island project in the Athabasca Basin,
Saskatchewan. That's paid for by our partner Ditem
Explorations. In the Otish and Mistassini Basins
of Quebec, we'll be doing our basic grassroots exploration,
reconnaissance geophysics, ground prospecting, detailed
ground geophysics, prospecting of the historic reported
showings. We are also doing the drill program on
the Lexam joint venture. Lexam's budget is $750,000
for 2007, and they've indicated a willingness, or
at least a capacity, to go beyond that if conditions
warrant.
Q: Have you reached in any of these territories
the pre-production level?
A: Negative. Not with Golden Valley Mines. We're
not at pre-production levels.
Q: So it's all exploration with promise in the future
to get to a different stage.
A: It's all exploration, very focused on early-stage
exploration, grassroots.
Q: If you have to divide the various commodities,
which one would be what percentage?
A: In terms of our property holdings, uranium represents
41 percent of our property portfolio, gold 40 percent
of our property portfolio, nickel, copper, platinum,
and palladium, both elements, 12 percent of our
property portfolio, diamonds 3 percent property
portfolio, VMS, volcano genic massive sulfites,
namely copper/zinc, 5 percent property portfolio,
and molybdenum, 2 percent current property portfolio.
Q: So basically you said that 70-80 percent is gold
and uranium.
A: 81 percent is uranium and gold, yes.
China plans to set up a strategic reserve of natural
uranium to ensure that the emphasis on nuclear power
development is backed by a "stable and reliable"
fuel supply. The reserve will be built by "sparing
no effort" in identifying and exploiting domestic
uranium deposits, while seeking international collaboration
at the same time, according to the latest national
nuclear industry development plan for years up to
2010.
Slightly more than 1 percent of China's total electricity
needs are met by nuclear power plants but this is
set to surge to 4 percent by 2020, as the country
seeks to reduce its reliance on coal-fired, polluting
plants, according to official sources.
The official said the State reserve, plus a system
of commercial stockpiles in enterprises, will take
shape by 2010.
Q: Is there some industry standards which value
any of these properties?
A: I really can't reply to that with any degree
of confidence or backup. Typically companies that
are focused solely in uranium are trading at a premium
right now. And similarly they've seen the gold sector
in other markets over past decades respond more
favorably, trade at multiples that are reflective
of their particular niche in the industry.
Q: Gold, the production, the last statistic that
overall worldwide production is down about 9 percent
and it's not likely to recover in the future. So
gold properties, if anything, will go up in value
and you have a credibility of finding gold.
A: Right. But similarly, nickel or base metal companies
traded at discounts through most of the past decades,
and now most of them are trading at multiples.
Q: So that's a positive which probably several years
ago I'm sorry we probably didn't take into account.
I mean, I was very active in Dimondfield Resources,
and the nickel price was by no means higher than
$3.00.
A: That's right. In 1994.
Q: Yes. October 4, 1994. I had dinner with the chairman
in Vancouver. I remember when the discovery happened.
But let's jump a little bit. People have been speaking
about uranium and now serious statistics emerge.
There are 400 power stations, 100 may be built in
the next few years, and I think what will happen
is that world leaders and countries will admit that
replacing oil with methanol or ethanol outright
10% in gasoline oil is a fantasy. And as a result,
uranium will come into the picture as a realistic
alternative to oil. If that's the case, and you
have 500 power stations, each of them practically
has to be purchasing uranium fifteen years in advance
because you can't run a power station without an
adequate supply for several years to come. Therefore,
your potential uranium discoveries could have a
very big value.
A: These are fair comments, and it's not dissimilar
from the marketing that's used in the diamond sector
where conflict diamonds trade at a discount to safe
haven diamonds. You can apply the same logic to
uranium, given that the primary usage now is energy
and energy consumption, and the source of the uranium
is becoming a political topic as well. Certainly
Quebec as a province is dynamic, Quebec has always
had its policy directed largely on energy, mostly
hydro, but now it is the government that is one
of the largest backers in the new pulse of uranium
exploration.
Q: I mentioned today there is an article that NYMEX
in New York will have uranium contracts traded.
Many years ago I was a member of the COMEX personally,
and I know when there is active trading. It started
with silver in the early 1970s and the price of
silver had gone up. I'm not talking about the Hunt
run-up but the regular run-up to $10-11. Palladium,
where it became tradable, and platinum had an enormous
rise in the seventies. Now, the best you can say
about platinum is it's needed for the automobile.
When it comes to uranium, suddenly you enter what
Sheik Yumani called in 1974 the coping with cheap
energy, because he said on television, "Gentlemen,
cheap energy is over." And he was right. Going
up to 2007-08-09, I have in mind a possible major
meeting, G-7 or heads of state, where a statement
will come out saying, "Gentlemen, we need oil,
we need uranium, and all the other alternatives
are filling only a small gap. It means nothing."
The 21st century is the century of uranium. The
liberal environmentalists are wrong, and Professor
Teller was right.
Now, when that happens, first of all the big companies
will look around, and they will call you on the
phone to ask for how much would you sell your company?
Is it a plausible scenario?
A: I don't know. These are forward-looking scenarios
that we don't spend a lot of time contemplating
right now.
Q: How many companies in uranium are like yours?
A: Well, we're not a uranium company. We're a mining
exploration company.
Q: Okay. How many uranium mining exploration companies
have your reputation and your level of advancement?
A: There are hundreds of junior mining companies
working in exploration.
Q: 240 in Canada, 120 in Australia, but the most
productive are in South Africa and Zambia. And some
people became very rich going to Africa. Having
lived in Africa myself, I am pro-Africa. But all
those productions are a fraction of what uranium
is supposed to fulfill. What I am saying is that
if the price of uranium goes to $150 to $200 on
the spot market, and is traded on the futures market,
you will get a helluva lot of money to join one
of your partnerships to explore for uranium.
A: Fair comment.
Q: In that case, the value of your company is likely
to go up. If everybody wants to buy your product
or join you, the price goes up. That's pure economics.
Let me turn to the present. Your company, if I'm
correct, has fully diluted 60 million shares.
A: It is 63.7 million fully diluted.
Q: The price in Canadian dollars this morning is
$.82.
A: Thank you. You're telling me something I did
not know.
Q: Which means that the whole market capitalization
of your company is $50 million Canadian.
A: Yes.
Q: Which is let's say roughly $40 million U.S. So
we have a company that has many years of experience,
past association with other companies. You have
received monies so far from companies for drilling.
You have unlimited extra possibilities of getting
exploration territories or picking up some of the
smaller companies. And you are in a key position
for what the world needs today B liquidity means
gold, uranium means energy.
A: That's right.
Q: One last question. How much cash do you have
in the company?
A: Just over $9 million Canadian.
Q: And that's sufficient for you for a year or so.
A: No, that's sufficient for approximately four
years at the current burn rate. We've tried to build
a company that will survive the vagaries of the
market gyrations. In good markets or bad markets,
Golden Valley will be exploring. Some of the best
opportunities are derived from the worst of market
conditions. Right now we're using partnerships to
increase our access to exploration, to afford more
leverage, more opportunities. That's why we'll be
drilling the uranium projects shortly into 2007,
gold projects in James Bay in 2007, gold and copper
projects in the Abitibi Green Stone Belt, Val D'Or,
Quebec, to Timmons, Ontario, every month through
year-end. So we hope to have over 80 holes drilled
through 2007, of which Golden Valley pays for less
than a third.
Q: Any of these exploration projects would you consider
selling for the right price?
A: Well, we don't sell any projects. We offer partnerships
where partners can leverage themselves in and earn
interest by funding exploration, and by making certain
share payments.
However, Kevin Bambrough, market strategist at Sprott
Asset management Inc. of Toronto, which has invested
aggressively in the uranium sector, said the futures
market may siphon off some of the speculative money
that has been pumped into buying physical yellowcake.
"I think adding liquidity is usually a good
thing overall, but I don't expect it to have too
much of an impact on the global supply-demand picture,
which ultimately will dictate where the price is
going to head."
Bob Mitchell, who heads Adit Capital LLC of Portland,
Oregon, and was one of the first fund managers to
invest in physical uranium, figures nuclear power
plant operators will likely try to use the futures
to try to slow the fuel price rise. "But at
the end of the day they're going to need uranium
to put in their reactors to produce electricity,
and paper profits and losses won't do that for them,"
he said.
Meanwhile, Peter Framer, chief executive officer
of both uranium miner Denison Mines, Inc. of Toronto
and Uranium Participation Corp., a publicly-traded
closed-end fund that buys uranium oxide, also played
down the potential impact. "It's just a bet
on the yellowcake price, so it shouldn't have any
more effect on the price than the trading value
of UPC shares has," he said.
For instance, Athabasca, Saskatchewan, Bear Tooth
Island, [Ditem] can early 50 percent by spending
a million dollars in exploration over three years,
60 percent by spending $2 million more. So by spending
$3 million, they can earn 60 percent over four years.
We also bought two million 104 warrants. Ditem is
trading at $2.00 right now. Lexam Exploration can
earn 50 percent of our Quebec uranium properties
by spending $3 million and Mr. McEwen himself, the
president and chairman of Lexam and U.S. Gold, bought
10 percent of Golden Valley in January.
Q: At a very good price.
A: Well, he paid 334 then when it was trading at
304, and it's doing better than that now. You're
telling me that we're at 804 this morning. I'm looking
at geological maps more than I'm looking at market
prices.
Q: Just for theoretical purposes, Lexam puts in
$3 million B they can put in more, of course B and
that particular territory is developed and it's
very promising. You may be able to turn around just
as a portfolio transaction to sell the whole property
to Lexam or a third party and pocket let's say $20
million.
A: All of these scenarios are possible.
Q: In other words, if you, like the head of a conglomerate
or a mathematician, can play with your individual
projects, partners, drill, evaluate the market,
and convert some of them into cash. In that case,
the company instead of $9 million may have $30-40
million. And since we calculated that you have a
$40 million U.S. market cap, the whole portfolio
can be converted maybe to $100 or $200 million cash
over the next two years.
A: It's entirely possible. Right now at this moment
in time, we have about 2.5 million shares of other
public companies that we hold as short-term investments.
Those are shares that we have received for the property
transactions that I described, and they're not included
in the $9 million cash. There's all kinds of leverage.
Q: In summary...
A: In summary, we work in several commodities B
uranium, gold, base metals. We're constantly drilling
based on the fundamental concept that unless you're
drilling, there's no opportunity for discovery.
So we're financed $9 million cash. Management are
the largest shareholders. We don't ask people to
put their money down where we have not ourselves.
We are the largest shareholders. We have a track
record. We have another company that's done extremely
well that we are also the largest shareholders of.
Toronto Stock Exchange listed, completing a feasibility
study. We're all long-time holders in our two projects.
Golden Valley is not for people that are averse
to risk. It's a high-risk proposition based on high
rewards.
Q: Apart from your skills and your professional
ability, the risk element is going in your favor
and declining, not increasing.
A: Absolutely.
Q: Dimondfield had to be sold because the two chairmen
had nothing to do with mining. You are a professional
mining engineer.
A: Geologist.
Q: What I see is that you are sitting at the conference
table and telling your board of directors that,
gentlemen, we have 23 properties, this is how we
stand, this is the number of offers we got. And
if we take half of the offers, we will probably
have cash well in excess of $40 million. We still
have the other half to work with and we can buy
new properties. So in other words, this kind of
opportunity has only been available in the past
to the giants, to Falconbridge, Rio Tinto, BHP in
Australia, and several South African companies.
As a holding company, smaller companies like you
have never had the privilege of thinking like a
giant.
A: That's entirely accurate.
Q: Thanks very much.